What I wonder is of the 9,757 deaths, how many died OF Covid & how many died WITH Covid.
Also, of the Covid hospitalizations, I’d be curious to know if they had the seasonal flu & their test showed positive for Covid, assuming they had a test.

Would it surprise you to learn COVID-19 has killed a total of 129 people age 18 or younger? Meanwhile, 3,000 people (that’s not a rounded number) between the ages of 10 and 19 committed suicide in 2018. Another 4,240 died of accidental injuries. What emergency measures have we taken to reduce those numbers? Mandated annual psych evaluations? Raised the driving age to 21? Made it illegal for kids to handle firearms? No, no, and no. Yet kids can’t play sports, sing in choir, or go to school.
526,509 individuals 65 and over died of heart disease in 2018. That dwarfs the 235,159 COVID-19 deaths among all ages. What emergency measures are we taking to ensure people don’t die of heart disease? Enforced heart healthy diets? Mandated daily exercise? Alcohol and cigarette bans? None of those. But our governor thinks it’s too dangerous to eat inside a restaurant.
I’m not suggesting we act like COVID-19 doesn’t exist. I’ve been for reasonable precautions (almost) since the very beginning. You can check that, if you’d like. But we’ve all been accepting risks far greater than COVID-19 for a long, long time. It’s time to stop the fear mongering. And it’s time to enact policy that makes sense.
Something is going on.
The numbers the state reports for counties has always been slightly off from the county health dept. But lately the numbers have been HUGE.
The Counties are much much lower. Kane was off by a over 200 cases.
DuPage Deaths were DOUBLED for the last week.
Look for yourself. JB Is FAKING NUMBERS!!!
A new single day record of tests reported. Positive rate 7.3% yesterday and Death RATE drops again!!! Just 400k positive in a state of 12.6M so 12.2 Million are negative.
SPRINGFIELD – The Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH) today reported 6,943 new confirmed cases of coronavirus disease (COVID-19) in Illinois, including 36 additional deaths.
Adams County: 1 male 90s
Carroll County: 1 female 80s
Christian County: 1 male 50s
Cook County: 1 male 40s, 1 female 50s, 1 male 50s, 1 female 70s, 1 female 80s, 1 female 90s
DuPage County: 1 male 60s, 1 female 70s
Fulton County: 1 male 70s
Greene County: 2 females 90s
LaSalle County: 1 female 80s, 1 female 90s
Livingston County: 1 male 60s
Macon County: 1 female 70s
Madison County: 1 male 70s
McDonough County: 1 male 60s
Morgan County: 1 male 80s
Peoria County: 1 female 90s
Piatt County: 1 female 90s
Saline County: 1 female 70s, 1 female 90s
St. Clair County: 1 male 70s
Tazewell County: 1 male 60s
Wayne County: 1 female 80s, 1 male 80s
White County: 1 male 80s
Will County: 2 males 70s, 1 female 80s, 2 females 90s
Winnebago County: 1 female 70s
Currently, IDPH is reporting a total of 402,401 cases, including 9,711 deaths, in 102 counties in Illinois. The age of cases ranges from younger than one to older than 100 years. Within the past 24 hours, laboratories have reported 95,111 specimens for a total 7,637,209. As of last night, 3,092 people in Illinois were reported to be in the hospital with COVID-19. Of those, 673 patients were in the ICU and 288 patients with COVID-19 were on ventilators.
The preliminary seven-day statewide positivity for cases as a percent of total test from October 23 – October 29 is 7.3%
By Age:
40s – 1
50s – 3
60s – 4
70s – 10
80s – 8
90s – 10
So there was a phone conference today where the Illinois Department of Health and the Illinois State Police were on with many local elected officials.
Here are the main takeaways:
1) Illinois State Police will not participate in any attempts to close a business.
2) Health Department is not sure how to enforce closing a business. They are trying to figure it out.
3) Even though schools and home are the presumed main contributors to positive cases, they are going after bars and restaurants because those are the only places they can try and control.
Your livelihoods are being destroyed over this wishy washy bullshit. Please don’t fall for this anymore.

Deleted by author? Afraid of truth? Engage in a real debate over these facts!
Shrugging them off and just deleting the comment? Weak. Coward.
Your numbers are severely off. There are a total (as of October 5th) of 169 different Covid tests, each with a false NEGATIVE rate of between 30-70%. There are no false positives and no gold standard for testing due to the Federal Government’s lack of regulation in this subject. Because of the high degree of false negatives, many who HAVE covid may have several negative tests, even days apart, while ultimately still suffering symptoms and damage from Covid.
When high accuracy biopsy testing is performed on the post mortem tissue it is confirmed, however the tell tale signs of lung damage – as well as other organ damage*- make the testing unnecessary as it is completely unique to COVID-19 to damage the tissue in this way. Because of the number of false negatives, the number is vastly undercounted. Estimates based on the dead indicate we are only counting between 1/3 and 2/3 of actual deaths.
The dead are those who would not have died except for Covid. This is a fact. How can we be so sure?? The answer is quite simple. As you quoted a number of statistics for various conditions and injuries, including suicide, you understand already that we have a baseline. Statisticians know the numbers on paper. Hospitals know the number from their own records, outside of worldwide & national statistics. They know not only from tracking deaths but also from reporting to their insurance company (who insured the hospital against liability) and the numbers are confirmed once again through their financial side, as they deal with billing for the dead. For a hospital, these 3 independent systems confirm the accuracy of those numbers, the count of how many will die.
Separately from the nationwide and state systems, and the multiple hospital systems, Doctors know how many walk through their door on average, who will not walk out. The tracking system is inherent in the emotional weight in the cost of each memory of every death for which they have attended, been present for, or been responsible for calling TOD. For the majority of doctors, death is not as commonplace as having a meal, and with decades of experience physicians know the baseline for each season, each year.
Put simply, we know what the numbers should be. We know precisely how the thousands of deaths you mention in your statistics translate to how many people will die in care of a hospital, in care of a physician or nurse, in any given month of the year and on the average day. So if a medical professional take care of the dying 1-2 times a week, and that number increases to 3-4 times a DAY, they immediately know it has increased above the average. (Similarly, if for a sustained period that number drops substantially, they would look around and say hey something is up- no one has died in a month!)
While brief increases are taken into consideration and may be ‘normal’ or ‘expected’, due to specific incidents- for example say a bus accident which affects multiple people who may pass slowly in the hospital over the next few week; and would be traceable to that single event, effecting no one outside the accident. However, LARGE and SUSTAINED increases are quite obviously not ‘expected’ as a ‘typical’ part of the job, and as these are not traceable to single event (like an earthquake or tornado) or injury (car pileup) the numbers are easily recognized by medical professionals as ‘different’.
In short, as you explained: we know the numbers. Multiple systems from the public to the private track and confirm the accuracy of those numbers in various ways. We know more than 200,000 people are dead who should not be right now. In fact, though we can’t officially label the cause because of highly inaccurate testing, that the number of dead is nearly 3x what it should be right now in the United States.
We have 4% of the population and 20% (officially) of the dead.
*Covid is no longer considered to be only a respiratory virus and has been documented to affect multiple organ systems causing the same unique and tell tale damage in the kidneys, brain, and vascular system. It is because of the never before seen way that Covid infects the cell directly that it is able to travel through the body this way.
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Your numbers are severely off. There are a total (as of October 5th) of 169 different Covid tests, each with a false NEGATIVE rate of between 30-70%. There are no false positives and no gold standard for testing due to the Federal Government’s lack of regulation in this subject. Because of the high degree of false negatives, many who HAVE covid may have several negative tests, even days apart, while ultimately still suffering symptoms and damage from Covid.
When high accuracy biopsy testing is performed on the post mortem tissue it is confirmed, however the tell tale signs of lung damage – as well as other organ damage*- make the testing unnecessary as it is completely unique to COVID-19 to damage the tissue in this way. Because of the number of false negatives, the number is vastly undercounted. Estimates based on the dead indicate we are only counting between 1/3 and 2/3 of actual deaths.
The dead are those who would not have died except for Covid. This is a fact. How can we be so sure?? The answer is quite simple. As you quoted a number of statistics for various conditions and injuries, including suicide, you understand already that we have a baseline. Statisticians know the numbers on paper. Hospitals know the number from their own records, outside of worldwide & national statistics. They know not only from tracking deaths but also from reporting to their insurance company (who insured the hospital against liability) and the numbers are confirmed once again through their financial side, as they deal with billing for the dead. For a hospital, these 3 independent systems confirm the accuracy of those numbers, the count of how many will die.
Separately from the nationwide and state systems, and the multiple hospital systems, Doctors know how many walk through their door on average, who will not walk out. The tracking system is inherent in the emotional weight in the cost of each memory of every death for which they have attended, been present for, or been responsible for calling TOD. For the majority of doctors, death is not as commonplace as having a meal, and with decades of experience physicians know the baseline for each season, each year.
Put simply, we know what the numbers should be. We know precisely how the thousands of deaths you mention in your statistics translate to how many people will die in care of a hospital, in care of a physician or nurse, in any given month of the year and on the average day. So if a medical professional take care of the dying 1-2 times a week, and that number increases to 3-4 times a DAY, they immediately know it has increased above the average. (Similarly, if for a sustained period that number drops substantially, they would look around and say hey something is up- no one has died in a month!)
While brief increases are taken into consideration and may be ‘normal’ or ‘expected’, due to specific incidents- for example say a bus accident which affects multiple people who may pass slowly in the hospital over the next few week; and would be traceable to that single event, effecting no one outside the accident. However, LARGE and SUSTAINED increases are quite obviously not ‘expected’ as a ‘typical’ part of the job, and as these are not traceable to single event (like an earthquake or tornado) or injury (car pileup) the numbers are easily recognized by medical professionals as ‘different’.
In short, as you explained: we know the numbers. Multiple systems from the public to the private track and confirm the accuracy of those numbers in various ways. We know more than 200,000 people are dead who should not be right now. In fact, though we can’t officially label the cause because of highly inaccurate testing, that the number of dead is nearly 3x what it should be right now in the United States.
We have 4% of the population and 20% (officially) of the dead.
*Covid is no longer considered to be only a respiratory virus and has been documented to affect multiple organ systems causing the same unique and tell tale damage in the kidneys, brain, and vascular system. It is because of the never before seen way that Covid infects the cell directly that it is able to travel through the body this way.
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